The Mythology of Frank C. Hibben and Alaskan Muck
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The so-called "muck", which is found near Fairbanks and other parts of Alaska is a favorite cliché piece of evidence for a terminal Pleistocene catastrophe for catastrophists like Collins (2000), Deloria (1997), Hapgood (1970), Allan and Delair (1995) and Hawkins (2007). Such catastrophists love to quote either form from Hibben's book "Lost Americans", Hibben (1946), or his paper "Evidences of early man in Alaska", (Hibben 1934), which was published in "American Antiquity" using what Dr. Frank C. Hibben called "muck" as definitive evidence of a late Pleistocene catastrophe. Hibben's muck also occurs on various web pages advocating "pole shifts" and various other terminal Pleistocene catastrophes. If a person looks at the numerous scientific publications that have been published in the scientific literature in the 62 years since "Lost Americans" was published, a person finds that descriptions made by Hibben (1946, 1951) of the Alaskan muck have **not** been collaborated by any later researcher, i.e. Bettis et al. (2003), Busacca et al. (2004), Muhs and Bettis (2003), Muhs et al. (2003), Pewe (1955, 1975a, 1975b, 1989), Westgate et al. (1990, 2003), and many others. They have all found that the "huge numbers of late Pleistocene animal carcasses and splintered trees" reported in Hibben (1946) and their mangled condition are grossly overexaggerated by him and the various books and web pages that cite Hibben (1943, 1946). In the real world, the so-called "Alaskan muck" is a well-ordered, layer-cake sequence of layers of loess, colluvium, and solifluction deposits separated by paleosols, erosional unconformities, and buried forests with in situ stumps. These layers are illustrated by figures 20 and 29 of Pewe (1975b), figure 4 of Pewe et al. (1997), and the measured sections of Westgate et al. (1990). Within what Hibben (1943, 1946) refers to as the "Alaskan muck", geologists readily recognized 7 well-defined, distinct layers. The major layers are the Ready Bullion Formation, Engineer Loess, Goldstream Formation, Gold Hill Loess, and the Fairbanks Loess. They consist of silt, which have been demonstrated to consist of a combination of wind-blown silt called "loess" and sediments moved down-hill by slopewash and solifluction. Lying between these major units are Dawson Cut and Eva Formations, which consist of buried forests that are rooted in "fossil" soils, which are called "paleosols". Lying buried beneath the loess and filling buried valleys are gold-bearing stream gravels, which have been divided into the Tanana Formation, Fox Gravel, and Cripple Gravel. These layers are jumbled only where the have been disturbed by either thermokarst, landslides, solifluction, gold mining, or some combination of these processes (Bettis et al. 2003; Busacca et al. 2004; Muhs and Bettis 2003; Muhs et al. 2003; Pewe 1955, 1975a, 1975b, 1989; Westgate et al. 1990, 2003). As summarized by Bettis et al. (2003), Busacca et al. (2004), and Muhs and Bettis (2003), the Alaskan muck consists of layers of loess, colluvium, and solifluction deposits that have periodically accumulated over the last 3.5 million years. These layers are separated by paleosols and unconformities that formed during long periods when sediments did not accumulate. Locally,the uppermost part of the so-called "Alaskan muck" of Hibben (1943, 1946) is Holocene in age and still accumulating (Muhs and Bettis 2003). In much the same way that Hibben (1946) paints a completely false picture of the bones of mammoth and other megafauna being found in boxcar-load quantities, it also gets carried away with a gross overexaggeration of the facts while engaged in speculative and fallacious arm waving about the terminal Pleistocene extinction within Nebraska. As noted by Eisley (1947), while writing about great bone deposits of terminal Pleistocene age and allegedly found in Nebraska, Hibben (1946) incorrectly states: “...where we find literally thousands of these remains together... whole herds overcome by some common power.” However, pages before that, Hibben (1946) completely contradicts itself when it states: “In the Plains area...where fossil bones have been found, they usually turn up in small quantities and in fragile condition.” In this review, Eisley (1947) concludes that Hibben (1946) “in his popular writing has a penchant for the sweeping statement and in the realm of the spectacular which occasionally gets a little out of hand.” and “...ignores scientific caution for the sake of his story.” In yet another case, archaeologists went back to Chinitna Bay, as reported in detail by Thorson (1978, 1980), to relocate a Paleo- Indian Site described by Hibben (1943) because they regarded it to be significant find. After a long search and much digging, they found that the Paleo-Indian Site, a layer of "Alaskan muck" overlying it, and sediments old enough to have contained either it or the mammoths bones reported to have been found at the site were nonexistent. Thorson (1978, 1980) discovered that the layer of "Alaskan muck" that Hibben (1943) identified at the location of his imaginary Palo-Indian site consists of layers of oxidized marine muds and salt marsh deposits. In situ wood samples from a blue-grey clay, which underlie the layer that Hibben (1943) claimed contained Paleo-Indian artifacts yielded two C-14 dates. They are a date of 375+/-120 radiocarbon years: 1575 A.D. (GX-5655) and a date of 300 +/-130 radiocarbon years: 1650 A.D. (GX-5656) (Myer 1980; Thorson 1978, 1980). Using detailed directions, which Hibben had provided them in personal correspondence for their research and photographs, which Hibben had taken of the site and finds. Thorson et al. (1978, 1980) were able to precisely pinpoint the exact location of Hibben’s alleged Paleo-Indian site and mammoth finds. Thorson et al. (1978, 1980) were able to determine from Hibben's own photographs that they digging at the exact location that Hibben (1943) claimed to have found the Paleo-Indian points and mammoth bones and there had been an insignificant modification of the coast by coastal erosion. Finally, they were able to match layer for layer the stratigraphy observed by Hibben (1943) with the stratigraphy, which they observed. It is clear that Hibben (1943) was completely wrong about the age and origin of sediments and presence of a Paleo-Indian Site. Hibben (1943) mistook modern Eskimo points for Paleo-Indian artifacts as suggested by Bever (2001). Where Hibben (1943) actually found the mammoth bones is still a matter of discussion. In case, of his imaginary Paleo-Indian Site at Chinitna Bay, it is quite clear that Dr. Hibben, having his expertise in the landforms and sediments of the hot arid Southwestern United States, was simply inexperienced and incompetent in the description and interpretation of the geology and archaeology of polar and periglacial landforms and sediments that are found within Alaska. As a result of this and other mishaps, Dalton (2003) stated about Dr. Frank Hibben: "Scientific publications over the past 25 years have questioned or disproved several of his most noted discoveries." Even Hibben (1943) clearly contradicts Hibben (1946). For example, Hibben (1943) states: "The deposits known as muck may be definitely described, in the opinion of the writer, as loess material. All characteristics seem to indicate a wind-borne origin from comparatively local sources, as the material resembles local bedrock. The outwash plains of the local glaciations are likely points of origin for this material. These mucks deposits are from four to one hundred feet thick and are especially well known in the vicinity of Fairbanks, Circle , and other gold mining centers of the Upper Yukon and the Tanana where the muck overlies auriferous gravels." Contrary to what is stated in Hibben (1946), Hibben (1943) clearly concluded that the vast majority of his "muck" deposits consist of wind-blown loess and related colluvial and solifluction deposits. Hibben (1943) also noted: "Twisted and torn trees are piled in splintered masses concentrated in what must be regarded as ephemeral canyons or arroyo cuts." and “However, areas in which peat layers occur indicate a stabilization of certain portions of the muck for at least a period of several years and forests of trees found in certain areas give evidence of even more lengthy periods of stabilization. It thus appears that the formation of the Alaskan mucks is complex and that all of these depositions were certainly not made at a single time.” Again Hibben (1943) vastly contradicts Hibben (1946) by stating his piled and splintered masses of vegetation and animals comprise only a very very minor part of his"Alaskan muck" and that his “Alaskan muck” consists of sediments that accumulated episodically over a long period of time. It is also interesting that he writes about "ephemeral canyons or arroyo cuts", as it indicates that he is interpreting polar periglacial permafrost deposits in terms of processes that characterize hot arid desert environments that are totally devoid of permafrost. It is now known that his “splintered masses of vegetation fill depressions and ravines created by the periodic melting of permafrost, called “thermokarst”, during interglacial epochs or interstadial periods. Having seen the splintered masses of vegetation that are described by Hibben (1946) as the result of a global catastrophe, Canadian geologist, Dr. Andrew MacRae, who unlike Dr. Hibben, has expertise in how the formation and melting of permafrost can deform sediments, stated about the “Alaskan muck” in Macrae (1996): "Wow. Debris flows. Slumps initiated by permafrost melt. Crevasse fills in permafrost. The question is not whether or not this is evidence of a "catastrophe", it is why on Earth authors who cite this material interpret non-stratified, poorly-stratified, "jumbled" deposits with disarticulated skeletons as evidence of a global catastrophe? It is a stretch, to say the least. It is far from the only mechanism which could produce a deposit with these features. There are many modern processes, which can produce equivalent deposits "jumbled together in no discernable order", and many of these processes occur in Alaska and other arctic areas today (including Siberia). How do you propose eliminating these other processes as a possibility in order that a "catastrophe" of regional or global scope becomes the only viable hypothesis? Many authors which cite this material as evidence do not even bother mentioning the alternatives." The vast majority of “splintered” vegetation is restricted in occurrence to the Dawson Cut and Eva formations. The Eva Formation consists of a 0.5 to 1 meter-thick bed of peat and redeposited loess containing in situ tree stumps, logs, branches, wood fragments, and carbonized wood belonging to the Eva Forest Bed. The Eva Forest Bed is the buried remains of an Arctic boreal forest. Radiocarbon dates of 42,410 (Beta 46,130) and 41,200 (Beta 33,074) were obtained from the wood from the Eva Forest Bed. Thus, it is over 42,000 years old. Thermoluminescence dating of the loess above and below it demonstrated that the Eva Forest Bed was 125,000 years old as discussed in detail by Berger and Pewe (2001) and Pewe et al. (1997). Because it dates to the last interglacial period, the Eva Forest Bed cannot be considered valid evidence of terminal Pleistocene Earth Crustal Displacement. The forest bed that occurs within the Dawson Cut Formation is 2 million years old as demonstrated by dates obtained by Westgate et al. (2003) from the Palisades volcanic ash (tephra). The in situ tree trunks, logs, branches, and splintered wood associated with this forest bed, because they date to an interglacial period and are so old, also cannot be considered valid evidence of a terminal Pleistocene Earth Crustal Displacement (Notes: For more information a person can read “Vegetation and Paleoclimate of the Last Interglacial Period, Central Alaska” at: http://esp.cr.usgs.gov/info/lite/alaska/alaska.html . A Picture of 2 million year-old wood from the Dawson Cut Forest Bed can be found at http://www.rmtrr.org/gallery.html .) Volcanic ash beds also occur in the so-called “Alaskan muck” of Hibben (1943, 1946). They have been dated by Muhs et al. (2001), Pewe et al. (1997), Preece et al. (1999), Westgate (1990), and Westgate et al (2003) using fission-track dating. The fission-track dates obtained from the ash beds (tephras) were collaborated by simultaneous magnetostratigraphic dating of the loess. A list of dates obtained from dating the regionally significant volcanic ash beds (tephras) found in the “Alaskan muck” of Hibben (1943, 1946) is: Ash Bed (Tephra) - Age HP Tephra - 61,000 BP SP Tephra - 86,000 BP Dome Ash - 140,000 BP Old Crow Tephra - 190,000 BP Ester Ash Bed - 810,000 BP WP Tephra - 1,030,000 BP Palisades Tephra - 2,020,000 BP As the above dates demonstrate, none of the major region volcanic beds, which are found in the “Alaskan muck” of Hibben (1943, 1946) date to the end of the Pleistocene. Except for the Old Crow Tephra, they all are tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, and millions of years older then Hibben (1943, 1946) guessed them to be. The wide spread of ages for these ash beds (tephras) has significant implications. First, they are neither the result of a terminal Pleistocene catastrophe as suggested by Hibben (1943, 1946), Hapgood (1970), and others nor the same catastrophe. As independently collaborated by both the magnetostratigraphy and thermoluminescence dating of the loess, they demonstrate that the "Alaskan muck" accumulated periodically over millions of years and completely refute the intrepretaions of Hibben (1943, 1946), Hapgood (1970) and other that it accumulated as the result a single terminal Pleistocene catastrophe. There is also a wide variation in the radiocarbon dates obtained from the mummified mammal remains recovered from what Hibben called the Alaskan Loess as seen in Table 13 of Pewe (1975a). For example, radiocarbon dates of mummified mammoth remains were dated at 21,300±1300 and 32,700±980; a mummified horse at 26,760±300, mummified bison at 11,735±130, 12,460±320, 35,000, 5340±110, 29,295±2,440, 39,000, 21,065±1,365, 18,000±200, 28,000, 31,400±2,040, 17,170±840, 20,445±885, 31,980±4,490, 16,400±2,000, and 11,980±135. The wide spread of radiocarbon dates for mummified mammal remains demonstrate that they neither died as the result of a single catastrophic event nor had they died and were buried by a single terminal Pleistocene catastrophe. The numerous scientific publications that have been published in the past 62 years since “Lost Americans” was published clearly discredit the interpretations made by Hibben (1946) about the manner and age origin of the “Alaskan muck”. It would be scientific malpractice in the future, as past authors of books and web pages have done in the past, to mistake any of it for having any scientific validity at all. 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Illinois State Museum, Springfield, Illinois. http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/larson/loess.html anonymous, nd, The Loess Hills of Western Iowa http://www.nfinity.com/~exile/loesspg.htm Heinrich, P.V., 2008, Loess map of Louisiana. Public Information Series. no. 12, Louisiana Geological Survey, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. http://www.lgs.lsu.edu/deploy/uploads/Loess%20Map%20of%20LA.pdf Yours, Douglas[ Auf dieses Posting antworten ]
